Rod and Karen are joined by Zach from The Living Corporate Podcast to discuss the changing landscape of corporate America, the whitelash to DEI initiatives, quiet quitting, loud working, generational differences in workers, election news, Black face Diddy costume, couple tries to sell baby, man throws spaghetti at wife, bud driver saves child, french fry assault and sword ratchetness.
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My work situation can’t be described as the one or the other.
The work can’t be done on a 9-5 schedule, because medical conventions or congresses don’t work that way. Or the traveling.
My job is more a lifestyle I guess? But a well paid one.
No one cares how long I work or when as long as the work gets done. When I work on the weekend, I can decide if I want money for it or a free day.
I have lots of freedom but also tons of responsibilities.
Overall it’s good but you need to be extremely organized.
The main office is 3h away, so I’m only there about 4 times a year. For important meetings.
This episode reminded me that I do not miss working in a corporate office. These people truly do not care about you. When I was on maternity leave, I got a call from my boss asking me to come back early because they were short staffed. Yes I repeat, I was on maternity leave. At that point I was making as much at my side hustle as I was at that job. So when I got that call from my boss I was so pissed. So I did go back to the office and cut my maternity leave short and on my first day back I handed in my two weeks notice even though I planned on working there at least one more year. And for the next two weeks I didn’t do shit because what were they gonna do? Fire me? So I guess they were still short when I left.
I think that there was a huge difference in the way businesses were run before Jack Welch. Of course Welch was part of an overall movement where businesses were no longer chartered for actually contribute to society, but rather to increase shareholder value (thanks Friedman for that dumb idea). This shift from employees as a means of optimizing business to employees as a means of optimizing profits has led to the toxic corporate culture that Gen X and younger people grew up in. And things have gotten worse since the push for right-to-work-longer-hours-for-less-money-and-be-fired-at-the-whim-of-your-boss laws (aka “right to work”).
Not submitting to be the victim of wage theft (68% of low-wage workers in America have been victims of wage theft and wage theft accounts for more than half of all theft in the US), aka quiet quitting is not grounds for dismissal in reasonable states. In fact, firing people for not being willing to be victims of crimes is illegal in states with reasonable labor laws, unfortunately, “right to work” laws harm so many people in the US.
Do you think we’ll ever get back to the pre-Welch / pre-Friedman world where businesses were meant to do something and the profit motive was secondary?
Lucy: A Campground Adoption Story.
This episode is just what I needed today… was having a loud-work moment even though I work from home, where I made sure I was sending out my little Teams messages “don’t try to catch me after 2 today, I put in my time!” My team here is great, and there’s no quiet-quitting necessary when you got a good boss that really emphasizes work-life balance. Put in your 8 hours, do a good job, and don’t be bothered the other 16 hours a day!
“That’s a cheap ass baby” I died when Karen said that. That baby story was too much ha!
Btw shout-out to your Halloween designs, they’re sexyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cool. As a universal time traveling Lord, I respect a sweet design. Back to my costume.
Hey Rod and Karen
Great episode! FYI Payless is a supermarket in Indiana. My ex husband is from Indiana and I’ve shopped there. They have free samples. Cookies are fire.