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3008: RACISM UNDEFEATED NEVER LOST


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19 Comments

  1. think_p_smart

    Even if VP Harris had a stack of evidence, there is nothing she could do because the Dems have not given us any indication that they would do anything about it. And when he refuses to hold what should be the next election, I have 3% faith that this country, including the folks who voted for him, will do a single thing. And on the off chance he takes his last breath, I doubt Just Dumb Vance won’t install himself.

  2. Yaytoonday

    I cackled when Rod said “we will not have it, O!” a la Mbaku. I absolutely LOVE IT when I see my culture (Nigerian) make an appearance in American pop culture. I feel seen. I think this goes perfectly with your point about cultural appropriation. We should be happy to see our stuff in the zeitgeist, unless it’s being disrespected.

    Also, I apologize for insinuating that y’all didn’t say enough about the election stuff on the show from election night. (My comment about needing Karen’s seething furnace of rage) I realize how it comes off now, like I want you to be my own personal anger translator. I was just so in my feelings and looking for you right minded folks to discuss it. I appreciate you taking time to really sit with it for a couple of days before fully going in during the feedback show.

    At first I was despondent and everything felt pointless. I didn’t even feel motivated to make art, like why even bother. Then I went back into my art studio after about 2 days, and released all my emotions onto that canvas. That piece sold within 2 days of me finishing it. So I guess I’m saying the terrible election results was good for my art, haha! No, really, I’m saying all that to say, please Keep doing what you do! We need your voice now more than ever!

  3. mizzbarnes

    Hello Rod and Karen,

    Karen was fukking cooking at the 1:24:00 to the 1:27:52 mark of this. She is me at this moment. I put my hands together and screamed AMEN!!!

  4. Shoebootie

    Karen is right… just because you think you’re “safe” in a blue state, no one is free. No one is free till everyone is free. Racism and radical conservative politics is a disease and it’s infecting so-called safe states. My blue state was not blue by a landslide like it usually is, it was blue by a small margin. That is frightening.

    • Shoebootie

      Karen is outraged at going back to baloney sandwiches after she’s been spoiled by Chef Rod’s gourmet meals. Very justified rage.

  5. ImJustSayin

    Whoever this Earl guy is on Youtube…sir, you are hilarious. The way I full-belly laughed in front of my computer while doing work. Perfect show title. NEVER LOST!

  6. Anne

    Also, people should check Reddit for the Project 2025 discussion. There are spreadsheets explaining what each part of the plan means and how it might be implemented. Best case scenario, we spend four years in hell with a bad economy. Worse case, we become a dictatorship that resembles Russia. Keep in mind that the Russians have been immigrating to American to escape Russia.

    • ApiafromGermany

      Or maybe don’t. Can you change it ? No.
      Can you absolutely destroy your mental health? Yes.

    • Sean

      You forget about trump’s one redeemable quality. He is absolutely inept. Even with the support he is likely to receive, his presence makes their success less likely. Yes, we are likely to see a second trump recession, but whenever you start catastrophizing, just remember, neither trump nor Vance have shown any competence in their overlong time on this earth. They have the confidence of mediocre hwite men (because they are that or slightly less), but like mediocre hwite men they are also completely inept at everything they say they are competent at.

      It will be bad, there will be an increase in racist attacks (probably), the economy will likely go to shit (it always does under republican presidents, but the people put in power by a bunch of fucking morons who haven’t learned the proper way to wipe their asses are by their very nature inept, which should protect us from much of their worse inclinations.

  7. Anne

    Project 2025 has been the plan since Reconstruction. They never wanted to change this country. Ironic that the person responsible for this plan succeeding is an African born German man married to a man with children born via surrogate. Guess he feels safe.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

  8. Anzidavis

    Karen, I felt all that rage. I agree with you & Rod, America wanted this.

  9. ApiafromGermany

    I know I don’t live in the US and I’m very happy about it especially now, but I was very depressed the morning after, and I had to take a train to Berlin for a Kongress for 3 days.
    Away from home, on an extremely important work meeting.
    People choose hate over hope.
    On the train ride I felt all the feelings and tried to think how to handle the future best.
    Again. I know, I don’t live in the US.
    What I will not do is doomscrolling and following his every move and feel terrible every time.
    He will do crazy things and there will be no consequences.
    But I also had to unsubscribe to a podcast that called it the same as Germany in 1933. This is also not it. Hitler wanted to create living space in the east for example, and for that kill the people who already lived there and was voted on it. I’m not great in geography but I don’t think lacking space is a problem for the US. You have lots of space! I’ve seen it! Hey, something positive. Not like our highly populated Europe.
    Making it even worse than it already is ( it’s bad enough) only increases the panic and I can’t deal with it. Sounds so soft, can’t deal with it, I really can’t, I can bring myself to the edge of a panic attack and who does this serve?
    Probably the media.
    No thanks.
    I try to be the best human in my live I can be and nice, helpful and loving to others as my opposition to evil.
    That’s the best idea I have,
    Apia.

    • ApiafromGermany

      Overall it was good to be away in hindsight.
      My work is pretty a non political, there was lots of new science in the treatment of multiple sclerosis presented, a disease that attacks people, no matter the political views, and even if more women are effected, there’s lots of new development and people effected can pretty much live normal lives ( if they can get the medication, and even for them, the drugs will be generic in maybe 7 years and the prices will go down a lot for everyone)
      There was so much happening on the congress in Berlin, 6000 people, and almost noone talked about the American election.
      When my colleagues started doom -talking in the cab on the first day ( Noone is pro DT here) i asked them to stop, because it made me extremely sad and they did.
      So thats good.

  10. nettiedbest

    I’ve been planning to get behind the paywall for months, but Rod sharing his good, yet embarrassing rap made me spend that dough.

    • Sean

      One of us, one of us, one of us…

  11. Nebz

    A million thank yous for everything you do! Since 2020 I’ve had to make some big changes in how I get information, and a big part of that has been cutting down on social media and getting more information from podcasts, radio, news articles, and talking to people IRL instead. Your podcast has been a big part of that for me and has helped me keep my head on straight and informed without going crazy, and it’s helped me a lot be a much more effective activist and organizer. I’ve been able to put in a lot more work in my local community lately and thank you for helping me get to that point. Please for the love of all that is good take care of yourselves, and you should be proud. I refuse to believe that any of the work you’ve put in has gone to waste, even if this election went bad. I can at least say you’ve had a positive influence on my life and therefore my community, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

    On a personal note, I was surprised at how surprised I was with the results, I hadn’t realized until I checked the results how much I was expecting Kamala to win. I’m a white woman and most of my social circles are other white women and I truly got the sense that most of us were going to do the right thing, people I knew and the people around them, even those who leaned conersevative or didn’t vote for Hillary seemed like they were going to flip this time. But, I guess my circles aren’t as representative of the country as I thought which is extremely disappointing and frustrating. I feel like I should’ve known better but at least I know that I did everything I could. Sounds like you have similar feelings about having done your part, and hearing you express that was pretty validating for me. We’ll just have to keep on keeping on I suppose.

    -Landorf

  12. Bsola

    Hi Rod and Karen,

    Thank you for another insightful show, even during this devastating time.

    I’m in Canada and the news of her loss hit me very hard, I was in a daze on Wednesday I had to watch old episodes of Sex and the City as a form of escapism.

    I was speaking to my sister who lives in a blue State and City and voted in the election, and I think your point about people living in a bubble has a lot of credence. I was shocked when she said that people were not scared of a 2nd Trump presidency but were more upset about inflation under Joe Biden, and that that Kamala being his “Black” vice president hurt her chances.

    She has always been a bit conspiratorial so I’m not surprised she fell for the Kamala disinformation campaign. This was the first time I heard her say it. I know she most likely voted for Kamala, but the fact that I have to even wonder worries me.
    Wishing you both love and light during these times.
    B

    • DizzyLizzyGyal

      I live in a blue state too, like your sister. But maybe because I’m an attorney, I can appreciate how the federal government takes precedent over the states. I know my governor will do his best to insulate us from the effects of this man’s administration but that can only last so long and go so far. We will all feel the effects of his incompetence, nationwide.

  13. DizzyLizzyGyal

    Thanks yall. I know we’re all feeling a lot of emotions right now, I woke up to catch the final hour of this live and relistened later. His first election took me out, I was down REALLY bad, like Karen. This time, I was very worried because I know how deep racism and misogyny runs here but let myself be hopeful after seeing all the Zoom calls and the joyfulness at the DNC.

    Now, we will all reap what half of this country has sowed.

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